Comments on: Where Mark’s “Pilgrimage to Linux” Story Completely Falls Apart

By: Joey deVilla

Joey deVilla — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:05:24 +0000

@Mark: Never said nor implied any such thing about your wife's intelligence, nor her hair colour. In fact, if I recall correctly, she and I could pass for cousins, at least in front of someone who scored poorly on the All Look Same test...

By: Average User

Average User — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 05:59:15 +0000

Well, you’ve got me scratching my head then. I’ve converted a number of average users with Edgy, some even with Dapper, some with Mepis. Some moved on to different distros, but they’re definitely staying with Linux.

I guess I’m just not seeing the “completely undoes the whole argument” part. I’ll try to tune in later to catch it.

Thanks for the explanation, BTW.

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:43:17 +0000

(Oh wait, you thought my wife was a dumb blonde? She’s a professional programmer, just like me.)

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:40:01 +0000

Would you prefer that I send the Mac to the dump? It’s a perfectly good machine. I set her up with NeoOffice and Eclipse and GMail (archived with Thunderbird), and she’s quite happy doing what she does. She is a very light user (compared to me) and doesn’t run up against the data retention and data format issues that I had.

That said, her next laptop will probably run Linux. Most of her focus is on development tools (mostly Java), and they all run natively on Linux anyway. And it’s not like hardware compatibility is a big problem; even Dell is selling laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed (and smaller vendors like System76 have been doing it for years).

I used to delight in getting Linux running on weird hardware; now I have two kids and a real job, and I have significantly less time and more money than I used to. :) Buy a machine that works well with your OS of choice; that’s the beginning and end of the compatibility story as far as I’m concerned.

By: Joey deVilla

Joey deVilla — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:00:57 +0000

@Average User: I work for a company whose services — domain name registration, hosted email, managed DNS, secure certificates and so on — run on Linux. As for what’s on my desk: my laptop’s a PowerBook, and I;ve got two desktops, one running Windows XP, the other running Ubuntu (Edgy Eft). I get to compare the user experiences of these OSes in my daily work.

I think the issue of usability — which has come a long way in Linux — is only one factor in getting it to people’s desktops. As I mentioned in the article, I’ve got some thoughts on what these factors are, and will write about them later.

By: Average User

Average User — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:26:30 +0000

My wife uses Linux. She’s also used Windows without any problems. If she bought a Mac she’d be able to use that too.

I think you’re underestimating Linux. Or maybe you just haven’t investigated how easy it is to use.

By: Martey

Martey — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:45:25 +0000

I don't think Pilgrim's argument is that everyone and their Aunt Tillie should switch to Linux (at least not in this essay), but that the computer-savvy group you call the "I deploy on Linux, but develop on a Mac" people need not be developing on a Mac if their reason for using it is that everything "just works."