Comments on: Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto) http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/ Tech Evangelist Joey deVilla on Shopify, startups, software development, tech news and other nerdy stuff Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:18:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: akbar http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-16460 akbar Thu, 07 Jul 2011 00:53:55 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-16460 Rooftops actually taste much better and burn better than the American Marlboro lights. I smoked marlboro lights in the United States for seven years. And I find the rooftop very similar and better. Rooftops actually taste much better and burn better than the American Marlboro lights. I smoked marlboro lights in the United States for seven years. And I find the rooftop very similar and better.

]]> By: Ted http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-15716 Ted Tue, 10 May 2011 14:29:37 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-15716 The rate of smokers across Canada has been declining in an almost exact ratio to the increase in the cost of cigarettes. This ratio was believed to be scientifically valid, the trend has been studied for some two decades. IHowever, this information may be completely unreliable. My contentious libertarian intuition thinks this ratio reproduced by such government institutions as Statistics Canada is the exact reverse of my experience. The Jean Chrétien administration's deep decrease in cigarette prices in 1993 actually increased the cost of (illegal), cigarettes while reducing the price significantly for many ‘official’ smokers. Why? The explanation is simple: I was buying smuggled American cigarettes at $30 a carton, whereas with the tax decrease on Canadian cigarettes, it brought the lawful cartons to $35, only a $5 difference. It closed the gap enough to put most illegal suppliers out of business thus forcing me to pay $35 a carton for legal ones and putting me back into the statistics as a smoker. (People smoking illegal cigarettes are registered as non smokers to most data collecting agencies, including Government bureaus and no one really knows the rate of smoking out there in this vast country.) Now with the whopping government tobacco tax increases in the last several years on Canadian cigarettes, once again, the [real] price is falling. Most retail brands are around $75 to $90 per carton, but the highest I've ever paid was $52, but, a few months after the second last increase, my price fell to $35, and immediately after the last one – the Native Indian suppliers were in full swing and ready for the increased demand – the price fell to $25 a carton. If you buy native cigarettes unpackaged, unmarked and in bags, you could get two cartons for $30. (That’s $15 for a carton of cigarettes in Canada.) So there you have it. You don’t need to go to Cuba, America or Mexico to find pricing like this. By the way, many of my fellow employees smoke them now – in other words, they are statistically registered as nonsmokers – and that whatever number this group of illegal smokers represent, it is large. The Canadian Government says mean smoking has fallen to just 18% (compared to Japan's 27% and the USA's 21%). The rate of smokers across Canada has been declining in an almost exact ratio to the increase in the cost of cigarettes. This ratio was believed to be scientifically valid, the trend has been studied for some two decades. IHowever, this information may be completely unreliable. My contentious libertarian intuition thinks this ratio reproduced by such government institutions as Statistics Canada is the exact reverse of my experience. The Jean Chrétien administration’s deep decrease in cigarette prices in 1993 actually increased the cost of (illegal), cigarettes while reducing the price significantly for many ‘official’ smokers. Why? The explanation is simple: I was buying smuggled American cigarettes at $30 a carton, whereas with the tax decrease on Canadian cigarettes, it brought the lawful cartons to $35, only a $5 difference. It closed the gap enough to put most illegal suppliers out of business thus forcing me to pay $35 a carton for legal ones and putting me back into the statistics as a smoker. (People smoking illegal cigarettes are registered as non smokers to most data collecting agencies, including Government bureaus and no one really knows the rate of smoking out there in this vast country.) Now with the whopping government tobacco tax increases in the last several years on Canadian cigarettes, once again, the [real] price is falling. Most retail brands are around $75 to $90 per carton, but the highest I’ve ever paid was $52, but, a few months after the second last increase, my price fell to $35, and immediately after the last one – the Native Indian suppliers were in full swing and ready for the increased demand – the price fell to $25 a carton. If you buy native cigarettes unpackaged, unmarked and in bags, you could get two cartons for $30. (That’s $15 for a carton of cigarettes in Canada.) So there you have it. You don’t need to go to Cuba, America or Mexico to find pricing like this. By the way, many of my fellow employees smoke them now – in other words, they are statistically registered as nonsmokers – and that whatever number this group of illegal smokers represent, it is large. The Canadian Government says mean smoking has fallen to just 18% (compared to Japan’s 27% and the USA’s 21%).

]]> By: Tom Jackson http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-15661 Tom Jackson Sun, 08 May 2011 12:01:00 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-15661 Alright, its funny when you read about Canadian cigarettes. Canada has banned like every type of tobacco known to man accept Bright leaf Virginia tobacco and I believe Oriental tobacco (95% of Canadas smokes are 100% Virginia) So American cigarettes are always much better because they contain burley, oriental, recon, and brightleaf, and they cure the plant differently so the cigarette tastes and smells completely different (and the tobacco is much darker) Marlboros in Canada are marketed under NEXT and ROOFTOP REDS and they are just without the burley and a few other additives, and they bring the Nicotine down to legal Canadian levels under 4mg (note American Marlboros have like 8g of nicotine.) Alright, its funny when you read about Canadian cigarettes. Canada has banned like every type of tobacco known to man accept Bright leaf Virginia tobacco and I believe Oriental tobacco (95% of Canadas smokes are 100% Virginia) So American cigarettes are always much better because they contain burley, oriental, recon, and brightleaf, and they cure the plant differently so the cigarette tastes and smells completely different (and the tobacco is much darker) Marlboros in Canada are marketed under NEXT and ROOFTOP REDS and they are just without the burley and a few other additives, and they bring the Nicotine down to legal Canadian levels under 4mg (note American Marlboros have like 8g of nicotine.)

]]> By: John http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-9644 John Wed, 25 Aug 2010 18:28:04 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-9644 Amen Dan, Rooftop (Canadian marlboro rip offs) do suck and are an an insult to a marlboro cigarrette. The reason of course is because if you look on the side of the pack it says international blend, I experienced the real marlboro flavor (American blend) as a young man 10 or so years ago . . . family resideds on bothsides of the border, I enjoyed them for many years, but as border security and duty tax restrictions became tighter, I could no long enjoy them ... then 2-3 years ago (when They started selling these knock off malrboros.) I saw a pack behind the counter and actually got excited, the distinct gold and white design of my favorite smokes, I didnt care that they cost $8.00 I just wanted them ... so I bought them, I was almost too excited ( at the time) to realize they didnt taste or smell anything like what a malrboro should smell/taste like, anyways I figured it out soon enough and really just feel violated, thats the best way I can put it. I feel violated and I still miss the joy of a malrboro cigarette Amen Dan,

Rooftop (Canadian marlboro rip offs) do suck and are an an insult to a marlboro cigarrette.
The reason of course is because if you look on the side of the pack it says international blend,
I experienced the real marlboro flavor (American blend) as a young man 10 or so years ago . . . family resideds on bothsides of the border,

I enjoyed them for many years, but as border security and duty tax restrictions became tighter, I could no long enjoy them … then 2-3 years ago (when They started selling these knock off malrboros.) I saw a pack behind the counter and actually got excited, the distinct gold and white design of my favorite smokes, I didnt care that they cost $8.00 I just wanted them … so I bought them, I was almost too excited ( at the time) to realize they didnt taste or smell anything like what a malrboro should smell/taste like, anyways I figured it out soon enough and really just feel violated, thats the best way I can put it. I feel violated and I still miss the joy of a malrboro cigarette

]]> By: Dan http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-9184 Dan Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:16:57 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-9184 This is seriously f'ed up. Why can't the government leave people alone? We know that smoking isn't safe, why piss everyone off about it? Instead of laboring over the task of how to opress the smoking population, why doesn't the government solve the health care problem? Or make use of the time, instead of harming an industry that gives the government more tax money than any consumer comoddity, in the bloody world. This is seriously f’ed up. Why can’t the government leave people alone? We know that smoking isn’t safe, why piss everyone off about it? Instead of laboring over the task of how to opress the smoking population, why doesn’t the government solve the health care problem? Or make use of the time, instead of harming an industry that gives the government more tax money than any consumer comoddity, in the bloody world.

]]> By: bbbh http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-8531 bbbh Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:33:30 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-8531 LOL. American cigarettes are raunchier? In fact, they are much better. I am a dual citizen and I smoked all the Canadian and American cigarettes and American cigarettes are way much better. Even though the package of Rooftop looks like marlboro, they are pretty different. I brought the real American Marlboro Red to Canada and compared them. Rooftop actually tastes harder (it actually has a few milligrams more tar) and burns roughly. American Marlboro burns much more steadly and balanced much better. Honestly, Canadian cigarettes taste like shit. The only cigarettes I think ok are Dumaurier, Export A, Player's and Belmont... All the other cigarettes like Number 7, Peter Jackson, John Player, Accord, Matinee, Craven A, Canadian Classic, Mirage, Rothmans and MacDonald... THEY ALL TASTE LIKE FUC#KING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!! And they are crazily EXPENSIVE!!!! Davidoff and Dunhill are pretty good too but they are all manufactured in Europe, not in Canada. In fact, most Canadians haven't even smoked American made cigarettes and they just say American cigarettes and products are worse than Canadian stuff. I think they just say it without even smoking American cigarettes or even visiting the US because many Canadians don't really like America. If you say you are American they will try to look nice to you but if you pretend to be a 100% Canadian and talk about America, you can clearly see that most of them really hate the States (Especially young people like teens and 20s-30s) Actually, American Marlboro tastes much better. Even though many Canadians always say American cigarettes bad without ever smoking them, if you ever show your American-made Marlboro to them, they will be surprised and say like "Wow, is this Marlboro!!! Is it really from the States?" I bet you, when a Canadian asks you if you have an extra smoke and you give them a real Marlboro, you will feel like you are a Lamborghini or Ferrari owner. LOL.... That's what I always do when I come to Canada. Bring a bunch of packs of Marlboro Red and smoke around a mall enterance and people will ask you for a smoke and you proudly give them a Marlboro and they get super surprised and you feel so proud LOL LOL. American cigarettes are raunchier? In fact, they are much better. I am a dual citizen and I smoked all the Canadian and American cigarettes and American cigarettes are way much better.

Even though the package of Rooftop looks like marlboro, they are pretty different. I brought the real American Marlboro Red to Canada and compared them. Rooftop actually tastes harder (it actually has a few milligrams more tar) and burns roughly. American Marlboro burns much more steadly and balanced much better.

Honestly, Canadian cigarettes taste like shit. The only cigarettes I think ok are Dumaurier, Export A, Player’s and Belmont…

All the other cigarettes like Number 7, Peter Jackson, John Player, Accord, Matinee, Craven A, Canadian Classic, Mirage, Rothmans and MacDonald… THEY ALL TASTE LIKE FUC#KING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!! And they are crazily EXPENSIVE!!!!

Davidoff and Dunhill are pretty good too but they are all manufactured in Europe, not in Canada.

In fact, most Canadians haven’t even smoked American made cigarettes and they just say American cigarettes and products are worse than Canadian stuff. I think they just say it without even smoking American cigarettes or even visiting the US because many Canadians don’t really like America.

If you say you are American they will try to look nice to you but if you pretend to be a 100% Canadian and talk about America, you can clearly see that most of them really hate the States (Especially young people like teens and 20s-30s) Actually, American Marlboro tastes much better. Even though many Canadians always say American cigarettes bad without ever smoking them, if you ever show your American-made Marlboro to them, they will be surprised and say like “Wow, is this Marlboro!!! Is it really from the States?”

I bet you, when a Canadian asks you if you have an extra smoke and you give them a real Marlboro, you will feel like you are a Lamborghini or Ferrari owner. LOL…. That’s what I always do when I come to Canada. Bring a bunch of packs of Marlboro Red and smoke around a mall enterance and people will ask you for a smoke and you proudly give them a Marlboro and they get super surprised and you feel so proud LOL

]]> By: Larry http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-6036 Larry Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:46:13 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-6036 Ya I live in windsor and I must say that these Rooftop Marlboro Cigarrettes are not exactly a marlboro smoke without the name, ... In fact, I find that they slightly (at best) resemble they're american cousins why can't they just sell the origional marlboros in canada? am i missing somthing. Ya I live in windsor and I must say that these Rooftop Marlboro Cigarrettes are not exactly a marlboro smoke without the name, … In fact, I find that they slightly (at best) resemble they’re american cousins

why can’t they just sell the origional marlboros in canada? am i missing somthing.

]]> By: Global Nerdy | RubyFringe Guide: The Lay of the Land, Part 2 http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-1165 Global Nerdy | RubyFringe Guide: The Lay of the Land, Part 2 Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:47:37 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-1165 [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...] [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...]

]]> By: Global Nerdy | RubyFringe Guide: Active Surplus, a.k.a. Hardware Nerdvana http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-1166 Global Nerdy | RubyFringe Guide: Active Surplus, a.k.a. Hardware Nerdvana Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:20:05 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-1166 [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...] [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...]

]]> By: Global Nerdy | RubyFringe Guide: Best Damn Cookie in Town http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-1163 Global Nerdy | RubyFringe Guide: Best Damn Cookie in Town Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:14:13 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-1163 [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...] [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...]

]]> By: Global Nerdy | RubyFringe Guide: FAILCamp (Friday, July 18 - 4 to 7 p.m. at The Rhino) http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-1171 Global Nerdy | RubyFringe Guide: FAILCamp (Friday, July 18 - 4 to 7 p.m. at The Rhino) Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:02:33 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-1171 [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...] [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...]

]]> By: Nikita Pronin http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-1168 Nikita Pronin Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:55:10 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-1168 It might only be me but any government that tells me to buy a special cabinet so people don't "see my cigarettes" can f right off. It might only be me but any government that tells me to buy a special cabinet so people don’t “see my cigarettes” can f right off.

]]> By: Global Nerdy | RubyFringe Guide: The Lay of the Land, Part 1 http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-1170 Global Nerdy | RubyFringe Guide: The Lay of the Land, Part 1 Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:14:09 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-1170 [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...] [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...]

]]> By: Global Nerdy | Boozin’ in Accordion City (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto) http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-1169 Global Nerdy | Boozin’ in Accordion City (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto) Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:07:31 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-1169 [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...] [...] Where Did All the Cigarettes Go? [...]

]]> By: Global Nerdy | Getting from the Airport to the Hotel (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto) http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-1162 Global Nerdy | Getting from the Airport to the Hotel (Joey’s Unofficial RubyFringe Guide to Toronto) Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:37:35 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-1162 [...] far, I’ve published one article: Where Did All the Cigarettes Go?, in which I explained to visiting smokers that you can buy cigarettes in stores here; they’re [...] [...] far, I’ve published one article: Where Did All the Cigarettes Go?, in which I explained to visiting smokers that you can buy cigarettes in stores here; they’re [...]

]]> By: Joey deVilla http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-1173 Joey deVilla Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:05:28 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-1173 <strong>@Justin:</strong> It would seem that way -- every convenience store I've been to doesn't have <em>anything</em> posted on them. If I were a convenience store owner in Toronto, I'd plaster them with posters for long-distance calling cards or lottery tickets. @Justin: It would seem that way — every convenience store I’ve been to doesn’t have anything posted on them. If I were a convenience store owner in Toronto, I’d plaster them with posters for long-distance calling cards or lottery tickets.

]]> By: Justin http://www.globalnerdy.com/2008/06/23/where-did-all-the-cigarettes-go-joeys-unofficial-rubyfringe-guide-to-toronto/comment-page-1/#comment-1172 Justin Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:02:14 +0000 http://globalnerdy.com/?p=1779#comment-1172 wow.. our government is amazingly stupid. They can't even post non-tobacco related things on the tobacco cabinets? wow. oh, and your picture up there? The door is too wide. I've heard recently that the door can't be more than two feet wide - I figure that's to prevent people from accidentally seeing the cigarettes. wow.. our government is amazingly stupid.

They can’t even post non-tobacco related things on the tobacco cabinets?

wow.

oh, and your picture up there? The door is too wide. I’ve heard recently that the door can’t be more than two feet wide – I figure that’s to prevent people from accidentally seeing the cigarettes.

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